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marius-ciclistu

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #120 on: August 13, 2019, 09:20:21 pm »
That is no reason for us (or you) to fight here:)

I remember that opencart got criticism online for duplicate code etc etc etc. Still, it was and still is an opensource project that is used by many bussines owners that want a cheap online shop.
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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #121 on: August 13, 2019, 09:28:14 pm »
That is no reason for us (or you) to fight here:)

I don't fight with anyone, because i'm just a osclass webmaster in my country.

This is a developers fight or other obscure people.

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #122 on: August 13, 2019, 09:48:33 pm »
Back to real Osclass talk, I will need testers for my modified fork from @navjottomer that removes everything related to the market. I am posting repository link soon.

Do we know if that un-dressing from Osclass market is something 100% legal ? Do we know what Osclass company thinks about that ?

Because it is a big step.

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #123 on: August 13, 2019, 10:17:42 pm »
Back to real Osclass talk, I will need testers for my modified fork from @navjottomer that removes everything related to the market. I am posting repository link soon.

Hi folks

I don’t mean any offence.

Isn’t it wise that we all wait for a definitive statement from Osclass before stripping anything off of this script?

All these years, they let us use this wonderful script for free (and sure they will continue to do so) and we don’t want to upset them without knowing what their intentions are at this point in time.

Regards
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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #124 on: August 13, 2019, 10:28:24 pm »


I don’t mean any offence.

Isn’t it wise that we all wait for a definitive statement from Osclass before stripping anything off of this script?

All these years, they let us use this wonderful script for free (and sure they will continue to do so) and we don’t want to upset them without knowing what their intentions are at this point in time.


Sure, agreed. But they don't say anything about anything.

The least they can do is tell us what the future will be.

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #125 on: August 13, 2019, 10:39:33 pm »
We would like to thank you for your effort and the trust you put in this project throughout the years. Unfortunately, we have not been able to turn this venture into a profitable business.
Osclass, as a free software project, will be accessible and open to everyone as before, so we encourage you to continue developing plugins and themes for all of the users who still rely on our script.

Looking at the above I see no reason to panic that they will abandon the project altogether. I truly believe that they have plans to restructure a few bits and pieces to make the whole thing better. Let's wait and hope for the best.

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #126 on: August 14, 2019, 12:57:45 am »

I don't want to be rude, or this to be misinterpreted but I don't see any of "them", just one guy that moderate this forum and some developers that try to avoid the inevitable.
The major players from osclass team are gone, and if you do some search you will find them active in other projects and you will see that they left osclass.
In my eyes, this is a response about the direction of this project.

But again I don't want to be rude, and everyone can have their own opinion, or they can research an get to the same conclusion.

Or maybe i am wrong! Who knows....

You got me curious and YES you are correct. Checking tweeter, i see them in other projects very active ....

so ....

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #127 on: August 14, 2019, 01:42:36 pm »
Hi Everyone,
I read the thread and found some interesting thoughts. Currently, I don't know what will happen with osclass and with this forum itself.
IF and it's a big IF, this forum goes offline and osclass development continues at the pace it is now, then we may create an alternative( compatible with current osclass ecosystem) from my GitHub repo on which others are also contributing and can contribute.

My Idea about any new Osclass market:
I like to add a market to osclass but I wouldn't even think of selling pro plugins or themes on that market. That is what made conflict on osclass development which was rapidly growing before all this mumbo-jumbo. If there will be any market in my version of osclass then it will be an open market to give inbuilt functionality for installing and updating free plugins from that market (and open repo on GitHub).

If anyone wants to promote themselves than contribute to that market freely and people may buy something from you if they like your contribution.
I have sensed all of this and even posted about this in this forum. My post and thread were deleted and I am not sure if the same happens with this one. Many wonderful developers left osclass community because of these things.
My understanding of an open community is that it should be open in everything and profit shouldn't come before openness and need to trust in the community.
My focus will be to keep osclass or it's alternative open. Currently, there is no big goal now.
But if you are interested in pro plugins or themes in supposedly market than do not even consider my work. I am not against premium plugins or theme ( I too sell one theme) but they shouldn't be sold on the open platform. 


Personally i do not want to be tied up with ANY kind of such Market. Paid, Free, whatever. Maybe such a market could be just a plugin and if anyone wants to use it, be optional.

There are many reasons for that, security is one of them.


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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #128 on: August 14, 2019, 07:02:15 pm »
@navjottomer  You think just like me. Open is open and free:) just like ubuntu.

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #129 on: August 15, 2019, 01:12:05 am »
Thanks to Navjot, Patrick (webmods) and any other developers involved with and contributing to osclass git to keep it going and last but not least thanks to the osclass team - whether or not they choose to continue further development.

However, it would be nice to know by the end of this week from osclass team whether or not they plan to release update to the script (minus all the market dependencies) so we can know whether to wait for the update or start updating our sites now.
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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #130 on: August 15, 2019, 12:42:47 pm »
I will continue my life with osclass at github.

Sick and tired to read posts about people that want to "save" Osclass by creating a forum and a market and a rocket for Osclass.

Finally Osclass will have 100 forums for it, all empty, with the admins faking new users.

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #131 on: August 15, 2019, 12:45:37 pm »
God save us from all those who want to save Osclass.


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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #132 on: August 15, 2019, 04:40:38 pm »
Slight overreaction from everyone.

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #133 on: August 17, 2019, 02:31:20 am »
Slight overreaction from everyone.

Time will tell.

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Re: Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying
« Reply #134 on: August 17, 2019, 11:35:02 pm »
That is the money earned from several years on total sales. In European countries that money isn't enough to run this as a business - there are taxes on those sales, rent, bills to pay and if there is a team some salary for them or profits left.